Without further ado, the critical masterpiece that we've all been waiting for:
I was expecting to be be delightfully entertained from second-hand embarrassment, but I actually think Karl made a decent film this time around. I wasn't cringing (that much) and everyone played their roles well. I guess no one was really playing too far out of their comfort zone (unlike Freja as a Chinese peasant girl) so that helped with the flow and execution of this film. Things were more believable and realistic, keeping in mind that the "reality" portrayed is true for like .0001% of the human population. But that's Karl Lagerfeld for you. It's about the glamor, the luxury, the unattainable, and the fantasy.
Would we expect anything less from the Kaiser? No, of course not. And that's what attracts us to high fashion. We can get lost in a world far away from our own. It's interesting that fashion itself can simultaneously occupy a very basic utilitarian role and an escapist role in our lives. It's operating on two ends of the spectrum, which of course brings me back to Freja and the many paradoxes that seem to contribute to her being: modern yet classic, commercial yet high end, distinct yet malleable, and so on and so on. I'm digressing.....I thought she played the Fairy role as best as she could and she did a good job. She looked gorgeous and I'm sure many girls are questioning their sexualities as we speak. Although I wish Karl would stop using her as a gimmick so much. But Freja's obviously more comfortable with it than she was at the beginning of her career, so good for her!
In any case, your thoughts? Did you love it? Hate it? Find yourself wishing you could teleport into Anna Mouglalis's body? Find yourself unable to stop drooling over Mark Vanderloo? Who am I kidding....I know my audience here, so I'm pretty sure I was the only one looking at him and not Freja. ;)
Would we expect anything less from the Kaiser? No, of course not. And that's what attracts us to high fashion. We can get lost in a world far away from our own. It's interesting that fashion itself can simultaneously occupy a very basic utilitarian role and an escapist role in our lives. It's operating on two ends of the spectrum, which of course brings me back to Freja and the many paradoxes that seem to contribute to her being: modern yet classic, commercial yet high end, distinct yet malleable, and so on and so on. I'm digressing.....I thought she played the Fairy role as best as she could and she did a good job. She looked gorgeous and I'm sure many girls are questioning their sexualities as we speak. Although I wish Karl would stop using her as a gimmick so much. But Freja's obviously more comfortable with it than she was at the beginning of her career, so good for her!
In any case, your thoughts? Did you love it? Hate it? Find yourself wishing you could teleport into Anna Mouglalis's body? Find yourself unable to stop drooling over Mark Vanderloo? Who am I kidding....I know my audience here, so I'm pretty sure I was the only one looking at him and not Freja. ;)
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yes, rrose, you do know your audience well - as does karl ;)
it was also wonderful to see kristen mcmenamy's kooky side in motion, something which i had only glimpsed before in past eds and ads (remember VI/meiselpic ed? she was mid-air with her dog in glam)
Horrible.
I though the film was terrible overall. The delivery of the lines was like a primary school play at some points. The lead grey haired model was really scary. The scene of the morning after at the breakfast table was really good though with the rotating revolving camera. The only reason I watched it though was for Freja. I just love to look at her. What a beautiful person! Her face is so perfect. ( major crush)
Freja is super sexy, as always.
I am not questioning my sexuality anymore! That's for sure.
To be honest, the movie was boring at times, but I think it's a love it or hate it thing. Freja made it worth it.
why Freja is removed as a lesbian? The same is not fair, then it's reputation is as a lesbian, Karl Frey should be removed as an interesting character, charming, that she was dating a guy !!!!!!!!!
Freja is such a lesbian. Admit it!
oh god... ho-rri-ble
the only good part was freja, so perfect as allways =)
"I hop so! I hop so!" haha i loved the movie (using that loosely) and baptiste in all his gelled hair glory
Disliked the majority of the acting, made little sense in most places but... my word, Freja was wonderful. The etherial tone she gives off in her delivery and the kissing moments were indescribable. Breath taking as always for Freja, she is the only reason why I enjoyed this.
I have to admit that it wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be, but Karl could have hired someone to write a decent script. At times the dialogue felt improvised which mostly indicates a lack of planning and rehearsal (making it up as they went along?). Overall I thought it was a satisfying film. The cinematography was commendable. Baptiste Giabiconi has an ingenious knack for comedy whether or not he knows it. I'm convinced now that his acting is seriously underrated (snark). I liked how Freja's character was a bit mysterious. Even though it was a romantic fantasy I sensed a quiet undertone of danger that reminded me more of the psychological horror often employed by the likes of David Lynch; which is fitting because he actually directed her in one of his fashion shorts for Gucci Fragrance.
I think freja was the best thing in this film..her role was made for her, it was her character,mysterious,sexy,essential.It was her.I didn't like the end,cause i thought it was very cliche,it could have been better,and some other parts that were lacking,but otherwise it was a nice film..And Baptiste was good too!!!!!
Oh, how splendid this was... Well, I was pleasantly surprised, anyway.
I do think Karl has improved in this artistic arena. The cinematography was excellent, and the writing improved from Remember Now, which appeared completely disjointed to me. I think having a greater amount of time to fill allowed Karl more room to grow, and almost forced him to do so... I wouldn't mind a full length feature, just to see what that gets him.
Not so sure that the kiss was the best of ideas, but I have a tendency to catastrophize, and will keep that side only for those not faint of heart; for more on my negative views, see my published works.
"I wouldn't mind a full length feature, just to see what that gets him. " - I agree.
I actually thought this was good. And yeah, the kiss was a little unnecessary.
I am beginning to lose my interest in freja.
And where our blogger, something not seen the new articles ...
Im quite disillusioned in Freja. I think her major appeal was the mystery surrounding her but overexposure really made me lose interest. Now she is just another model who is a lesbian.
I think when personal life becomes a focal point (for models, this bunch that are coming out now) then it is the beginning of the end. We dont see the clothes we end up seeing a lesbian.
Thats not a bad thing obviously, but is she a celebrity or model?? becomes the question.
^I think when it comes to some of Freja's fans that may well be the case lately. But I would hardly call her a celebrity, as she doesn't seem to have any notoriety outside of the fashion industry and its followers. Of course, people who aren't in the industry and don't follow it probably don't invest much in its products either, so perhaps Freja's overexposure is having a slightly detrimental effect on that audience. If she continues snagging high profile commercial campaigns like H&M, Gap, and things that are more directly accessible, her profile in the public will grow much more, but even then it will take something else (cough *music career* cough) to push her into general knowledge. In my opinion.
It's eerily silent out on the Freja Beha blog frontier. I wonder what Rose has been up to. We haven't heard anything from her since May 10th!
i^m agree with you.
dear blogger! where are you?
Sorry, taking a break and trying to decide if I want to keep doing this/whether it's worth it anymore.
Please don't stop this blog! We love here because we love your opinion, I believe that your blog isn't about Freja's news. Here we have acess to a great analysis about her carrer and also fashion industry. I'm a fan of your work, please continue.
Kisses from Brazil.
Glad to hear from you Rose. For a while there I thought you might have been the only person on the planet who got raptured up on May 21st. It would be such a sadness to see you shut this blog down. Perhaps you could do monthly postings as opposed to your usual once a week/two weeks.
Do you feel like you're not getting whatever it was that you were getting out of this blog before? Are you becoming bored with Freja's career?
do not stop the blog, I beg you, I'm from Kazakhstan, I am very interested in this blog about Freja ....
If you want to take a break for a while, you desetve it! I know how much this hard and how much you have put an effort for this blog.
But, personally, I hope you come back soon.
In all honesty, I liked freja when she started the modeling thing, and then slowly what ever made her interesting dwindled away. Shes not that interesting to me anymore, shes became a specific style - and styles are trends that go in and out of fashion. Wasn't this the same frenzy that happened with Kate Moss?
As much as I love reading your blog but if you want to have a break you deserve it. I know there are lots of fan girls, stalkers, tumblrs and all but I visit this blog coz I want to know what you think about Freja's work
I agree with the comment two comments above.
For the first time, I have looked at her work and cant bring myself to thing that it is extravagant and whatnot like before. It used to take my breath away before.
Now she is one specific molded style, so when that mold falls away from being in fashion (ie. androgyny etc) so will freja.
Freja, I hope you are versatile enough to do an image change really well when it becomes necessary!
Why could it not be worth to follow Freja, you have a nice blog. Maybe the fashion world is ignoring you, incl. Freja, but I like it.
I think Freja has already proven she can be very versatile.
Yes, she has been stuck doing the androgynous,/ rock and roll star look often in the past couple of years, but then there is the Harry Winston campaign, and the recent cover of Vogue UK, cover of Vogue Brasil, etc.
On top of that, she's established herself as a model, so just because one trend or look falls out of favour doesn't necessarily mean Freja will fall with it.
That being said, we probably will see less of her, as she doesn't need to be seen everywhere anymore.
Although I did like the vogue Japan editorials, I have to agree that some of her work recently hasn't been as interesting...but I haven't given up on her yet, I still think she's a great model:)
Please don't shut down this blog!!!your point of view an freja's work is magnificent..I,from my side,i find myself agreeing with you most of the times..you express a huge amount of her fans!!
But if toy want to close it,it's your thing.
so we say goodbye to blog?
PLEASE DON'T SHUT DOWN!!!many people who love Freja also love your blog!
I agree with those who have lost their interest in Freja. She reminds me now of an overplayed song on the radio. The overplayed song becomes annoying to listen to, yet, you can't seem to get the annoying tune out of your head.
All the best, dear blogger, I can totally understand if you plan to shut down the blog.
I fully understand that you may feel tired of it all, but you're doing great job here and I hope you will continue when you feel ready for it. I find your opinions really valuable and I would love to see some more. Hope to hear from you soon
Please don 't shut down ! I 'm a french Freja fan and I use to read your blog to improve my english (yeah that 's beside the point)I just want to say that you 're doing a great job and I 'm sure your blog is visited by many people, so please continue to do this, even if I understand It 's a job that requires a lot of time
Sorry for my expression, I would say more if I were english
here's a peruvian Freja fan who is a little tired of her but still in love with her career.
Rrose, you're great. please don't feel that you don't have any readers because you do :)
and we love youuuuuuuuuuuu for all the hard work!
please continue you are my reason for living. withouth this blog and your writing i feel forever alone
I am so tired of Freja, and these skinny models making the-way-they-look desirable. Its wrong on many levels, I used to be a Freja fan, but now I just see a model, continuously shamelessly naked, without dignity, and unbearably lesbian.
i love this blog!! please keep it going
^^ I do hope you will forgive me for saying so, but among other choice words, I find a significant portion of your comment shamelessly and unbearably unnecessary.
That is all.
that anon of june 7. i mean, really dear? you have nothing better to do?
Hmm. Have to agree with Gill and Andrea, I don't see anything wrong with being "shamelessly" naked or "unbearably" lesbian.
please keep it going!!!!
I love ur blog!!!!!
I reckon Freja should be paying Rose for the amount of work shes done for her. Or even at least a fruit basket or anything.
I do believe the cigarettes are taking a massive toll on her, in more ways than I have the time to mention, so in the end, one thing I really understood was to never ever touch a cigarette. The gaunt post-2 pack a day face and the lack of personal hygiene especially the scruffy, unbrushed, greasy hair combined with phasing out of her "look" has made me look the other way and realize she is so last season.
This is not a derogatory comment by any stretch but simply a rational and detached observation by a Freja follower of (the whole term of her career) years who is looking back and disappointed that her magic was only for a time and that freja is indeed, or was indeed, a fad.
I believe I am not incorrect in thinking that the editorials and campaigns might start drying up, and we might be able to see very soon the harsh reality that the unbearably short length of the career of a model, especially one with an alternative look (not to mention lifestyle*- I have nothing against this because I too have had my share of sampling various textures of local and international carpets during college).
she looks like a dildo
Dear Rose, please don't shut down you amazing work here in this great blog. I'm a fan of the Freya's work as a model, i don't care her personal life and all the stuff about it at all. I only want to enjoy her work on the catwalk and printeds. And you are a excellent blogger, I really love your work, your essays are amazing, i like your viewpoint. I'm your fan from Mexico and I hope you can keep this blog on. because at the same time I improve my english. Hugs from México
Congrats to Freja for snagging the Isabel Marant campaign! I still follow Freja, always will. She's one of a kind. Love her unassuming manner and modesty.
Rose, I've enjoyed your blog for many years. If this is a crossroads for you, I completely understand. I hope that you at least continue to follow Freja's career because I feel we'll be hearing much more from her in different fields in the not to distant future.
^ MODESTY??
She threw that out a long time ago - that is why I have left her 'fan club'
I agree with Endia, she is modest considering the industry that she is in and how some of her other fellow models behave. And certainly the words that photographers, stylists, fans, editors, etc. have all used to describe her are usually kind, reserved, professional, etc. Definitely not anything immodest about any of that. :)
We miss you Rose.
agreed with Endia, Freja is very kind, very grounded and very reserved And She always is kind with her fans. I know that because some Argentinian girls tell it.
Plz don't abandon this meaningful place like this.
Freja is too lesbian. (not a derogatory comment) but meaning before i see her work now i see lesbian!! first. Karl has not helped this either. Its hard to take her work seriously when she is spreading her legs in front of the camera and too much nudity all the time.
its one thing to be comfortable donning your birthday suit, but its another to preserve your dignity.
I have seen her fanny too many times and it is very graphic looking. First it was the purple magazine, then it was the pirelli, then the campaign for santa lolla, and before this there was always a constant butt shot or nipple slip. And many times she is with women when nude, so it is all the more indicative of her nature.
I think to further her career, she might have to tone down the indecent exposure of skin. Where I live, you can get fined pretty heavily and get up to three years imprisonment for such behaviour and I know it is photographic + art etc, the rest of society does not see it in that light unfortunately,unless it is the porn industry, so it doesnt translate well and appears tasteless to people not in fashion.
Her body however, in all respects is a work of art.
When she becomes a musician, if there is a love song, everybody is going to know she is singing about a woman, and her full frontal (not to mention quite obscene and high definition :/) pictures are going to be available to anybody interested. I dont know how that is going to fare in the mainstream, but obviously we dont expect it to be mainstream disney-pop etc anyway.
Either way, the source of my rant is about the way a perfectly beautiful girl's image has been eaten up (no pun intended) and digested into a very public display of sapphic role play.
Now, I am a leading advocate for gay rights so this is not the point saying it is right/wrong. The point made is that people have said it is okay for that to be her image because she is not a celebrity.
However, I do not believe this is the case. Freja is the current face of Chanel and everybody is aware of Lagerfeld's intense lesbian fetish, as he has said himself he is "fascinated and inspired" by them. In some/LOTS of fashion shows, Freja has been given the male role aka. chanel show, or made to wear very masculine attire at other shows.
Unless Freja's musical debut is a long time away so people do not remember, I hope these factors dont affect her. Unfortunately this is not a utopian society and acceptance for homosexuality is only surfacing as of VERY recent.
Also, there was the Hedi Slimane photos.I was looking at these on the computer at the library one day and the first picture was her holding some sort of skull doll (in her groin region not to mention:/) but I thought hey this kind of interesting, but as soon as I started viewing the rest of the pictures I was asked to get off the computer as they thought I was looking at 'chld' pron..
As she is built like a pre-pubescent.
I really wish this heavy flood of nudity would stop.
^ why don't you go back to your church choir and cut this prude crap?
"the rest of the world doesn't see it..." have you ever thought that in different cultures (including Freja's own) nudity or even sexuality isn't a big deal?
I myself don't see anything wrong with nudity, and especially not in the fashion industry.
Her work has been pretty diverse lately (as in last 2 years) too, there were more feminine than andro eds.
rofl @ being asked to step away from the computer. Where on earth do you live?!
I sound like a prude? sorry, wasnt my intention- but i think i made some valid points
but thats okay because no opinion can be right or wrong, just from different filters of opinion
australia ROFL was quite embarassing the lady tried to be discreet but obviously they were all staring
but in her defence, freja does look really young there....no? i dont know
true about the ads, it was the haircut over anything else that created that kink in her image
I didnt know Danish people walked around naked i must move there
^ a couple comments up: I agree.
I want to see Freja as a model.
But all I see now is a girl from Denmark who was overexposed, over exploited, and quickly becoming over done.
How can she change this? Can she? Or is this just the nature of the fashion industry?
- Ana
Is Freja's nudity indecent though? I can't say I remember many editorials where she went buck in an overtly sexual way. You mention Pirelli, but I actually didn't find those shots to be sexualized. When it comes to naked Freja, I've always gotten the sense that the point was more the appreciation of her body (not saying that is the right message to be sending ethically, but whatever) as opposed to "Hey look, it's a nudie lesbian looking sexy!"... The premise is usually an artistic one. The editorials with Terry are really the only ones that tend towards the pornographic, and I wouldn't so much view that as Freja promoting a sexualized image of herself as Terry promoting sexualized images of EVERYTHING. It's his photographic style (again, not commenting on the ethics).
You said "Where I live, you can get fined pretty heavily and get up to three years imprisonment for such behaviour and I know it is photographic + art etc, the rest of society does not see it in that light unfortunately,unless it is the porn industry, so it doesnt translate well and appears tasteless to people not in fashion."
First of all, there is a difference between making child pornography and taking nude photos for a publication (pornographic or otherwise) or a lover when you are of age. Mainly, this difference boils down to child porn being illegal and the other two being not. Seeing as Freja is a model, and 24 years old, she is in no way breaking laws.
Second, I think you need to keep in mind that this is the fashion industry. You can love it or hate it, but the long and short of it is that they don't give a shit what your opinion is if you're not in fashion. Why? BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT IN FASHION. (This is of course exempting situations whereby fashion is losing exorbitant amounts of public support and money, which will cause change. But evidently, naked Freja is not one of these situations.)
Now, having said all this, I do agree that Freja has been starkly exposed of late, and I wouldn't mind seeing pretty clothes. But then I'm not in fashion am I?
PS, where in Australia are you from?
For me, it didnt have to be sexualised to be indecent. The amount of nudity alone made it indecent. Im not European, and so are many other people, so I dont really agree to such a blatant showing of the body by a model. Once or twice is OK because I agree, it was for the artistic value, but just too many times and that really lowered my view of her and my respect for her.
It comes down to dignity, how far you will push to sell a product and the first Santa lolla campaign pics made me lose my respect for her completely. I do believe the aim of that was not artistic and also because it was not editorial, or art material, but an advertisement, shows that sex sells and Freja is not ashamed to strip down totally (underwear included) to sell stuff.
The sexuality or no sexuality is not the point of interest for me, but after a while I started to think this way after I saw her work/ direction of career.
Also, regarding ethics, haha it is funny you should mention this one, because this morning on TV there was a segment on body image (the 5345798723487th time they brought it up, it is all they talk about on TV here), and Freja's body as well as many other runway models were the point of discussion regarding the ethics of it.
But back to the point, im not the one who said it was child porn, because it is obviously not. I was talking about the perceived nature of it, even if it is not. If librarians, people who have seen her work for the first time, worlds away from fashion, think it is indecent enough to kick me off, then when and IF Freja enters the music industry, or becomes an icon or celebrity, this is going to be a bit of an awkward uh..yeah
Well, as you can imagine it was quite an (extremely) humiliating experience for me LOL and trying to explain the reality of it only gave me the expression that says 'we know what you were doing' so this is what I mean, too many of this NSFW stuff, she is not a Michelangelo sculpture, but whatever. Again, I am coming from a non-European viewpoint, just a western, anglo-saxon one, but there are a lot out there who may share my views.
And that reference to the law was not in regards to this. I was simply trying to compare attitudes on nudity.
Yes she is in fashion, of course they dont give a damn about anything and regulation is despised(the most beautiful aspect of fashion IMO) but my first comment I made was mainly illustrating the possible reactions of people not in fashion, if she moves more into the realm of 'Freja' being the product not 'The Clothes' being the product, which I do believe her career is flirting with if we see that a naked Freja can sell bags or shoes or what have you and a smiling Freja eating (pretending to eat?) a cake can increase sales in Asia so much that there was discussion on a collaborative line between Freja and the George Jensen (I think it was).
Haha, yes, every opinion is completely non-essential if it is coming from a person with no power over it. Not even the politicians listen to many people, let alone anyone in the fashion industry, but, I think this is the point in having blogs or forums or even the internet, to talk and discuss as fans.
(Continued..)
And it is different with selling Lingerie or swimwear because of course the model has to wear it to show what it looks like on the body, whereas Freja was advertising the accessories line and you dont need nudity for that, however, she accepted to.
Where I live, there was major controversy a bit back with an ad for a clothing brand but it was advertised with a girl in a bath of milk, it was pulled.
The same way with Freja, I think there is a very clear line of when it is advertising and when it is just exploitive.
(First Comment)Why was it deleted? :/ Should I take some bits out?
For me, it didnt have to be sexualised to be indecent. The amount of nudity alone made it indecent. Im not European, and so are many other people, so I dont really agree to such a blatant showing of the body by a model. Once or twice is OK because I agree, it was for the artistic value, but just too many times and that really lowered my view of her and my respect for her.
It comes down to dignity, how far you will push to sell a product and the first Santa lolla campaign pics made me lose my respect for her completely. I do believe the aim of that was not artistic and also because it was not editorial, or art material, but an advertisement, shows that sex sells and Freja is not ashamed to strip down totally (underwear included) to sell stuff.
The sexuality or no sexuality is not the point of interest for me, but after a while I started to think this way after I saw her work/ direction of career.
Also, regarding ethics, haha it is funny you should mention this one, because this morning on TV there was a segment on body image (the 5345798723487th time they brought it up, it is all they talk about on TV here), and Freja's body as well as many other runway models were the point of discussion regarding the ethics of it.
But back to the point, im not the one who said it was child porn, because it is obviously not. I was talking about the perceived nature of it, even if it is not. If librarians, people who have seen her work for the first time, worlds away from fashion, think it is indecent enough to kick me off, then when and IF Freja enters the music industry, or becomes an icon or celebrity, this is going to be a bit of an awkward uh..yeah
Well, as you can imagine it was quite an (extremely) humiliating experience for me LOL and trying to explain the reality of it only gave me the expression that says 'we know what you were doing' so this is what I mean, too many of this NSFW stuff, she is not a Michelangelo sculpture, but whatever. Again, I am coming from a non-European viewpoint, just a western, anglo-saxon one, but there are a lot out there who may share my views.
And that reference to the law was not in regards to this. I was simply trying to compare attitudes on nudity.
Yes she is in fashion, of course they dont give a damn about anything and regulation is despised(the most beautiful aspect of fashion IMO) but my first comment I made was mainly illustrating the possible reactions of people not in fashion, if she moves more into the realm of 'Freja' being the product not 'The Clothes' being the product, which I do believe her career is flirting with if we see that a naked Freja can sell bags or shoes or what have you and a smiling Freja eating (pretending to eat?) a cake can increase sales in Asia so much that there was discussion on a collaborative line between Freja and the George Jensen (I think it was).
Haha, yes, every opinion is completely non-essential if it is coming from a person with no power over it. Not even the politicians listen to many people, let alone anyone in the fashion industry, but, I think this is the point in having blogs or forums or even the internet, to talk and discuss as fans.
Can you pls explain why you deleted my post? Thx
NM Rose :) I think it was just a server error cos my internet is stuffing up
(First post) For me, it didnt have to be sexualised to be indecent. The amount of nudity alone made it indecent. Im not European, and so are many other people, so I dont really agree to such a blatant showing of the body by a model. Once or twice is OK because I agree, it was for the artistic value, but just too many times and that really lowered my view of her and my respect for her.
It comes down to dignity, how far you will push to sell a product and the first Santa lolla campaign pics made me lose my respect for her completely. I do believe the aim of that was not artistic and also because it was not editorial, or art material, but an advertisement, shows that sex sells and Freja is not ashamed to strip down totally (underwear included) to sell stuff.
The sexuality or no sexuality is not the point of interest for me, but after a while I started to think this way after I saw her work/ direction of career.
Also, regarding ethics, haha it is funny you should mention this one, because this morning on TV there was a segment on body image (the 5345798723487th time they brought it up, it is all they talk about on TV here), and Freja's body as well as many other runway models were the point of discussion regarding the ethics of it.
But back to the point, im not the one who said it was child porn, because it is obviously not. I was talking about the perceived nature of it, even if it is not. If librarians, people who have seen her work for the first time, worlds away from fashion, think it is indecent enough to kick me off, then when and IF Freja enters the music industry, or becomes an icon or celebrity, this is going to be a bit of an awkward uh..yeah
Well, as you can imagine it was quite an (extremely) humiliating experience for me LOL and trying to explain the reality of it only gave me the expression that says 'we know what you were doing' so this is what I mean, too many of this NSFW stuff, she is not a Michelangelo sculpture, but whatever. Again, I am coming from a non-European viewpoint, just a western, anglo-saxon one, but there are a lot out there who may share my views.
And that reference to the law was not in regards to this. I was simply trying to compare attitudes on nudity.
Yes she is in fashion, of course they dont give a damn about anything and regulation is despised(the most beautiful aspect of fashion IMO) but my first comment I made was mainly illustrating the possible reactions of people not in fashion, if she moves more into the realm of 'Freja' being the product not 'The Clothes' being the product, which I do believe her career is flirting with if we see that a naked Freja can sell bags or shoes or what have you and a smiling Freja eating (pretending to eat?) a cake can increase sales in Asia so much that there was discussion on a collaborative line between Freja and the George Jensen (I think it was).
Haha, yes, every opinion is completely non-essential if it is coming from a person with no power over it. Not even the politicians listen to many people, let alone anyone in the fashion industry, but, I think this is the point in having blogs or forums or even the internet, to talk and discuss as fans.
Oh my God..
Sorry, my connection must have freaked out! :S
Santa Lolla is an accessories brand, so being naked and only having accessories around you makes PERFECT sense. I've always loved the most that kind of accessories eds and ads, where nothing else is distracting from what they're trying to sell.
Sorry, but why do you follow fashion (assuming that you're not just Freja stan, although that would explain a lot) if you feel like that about nudity and have conservative views about what's decent? Have you ever flicked through VP or VI? Or seen Lara Stone, Daria Werbowy, etc...
^I wouldn't be surprised if the poster HAS seen VP... Carine always had a certain.. inflammatory approach.
Poster, you are right, people moving into a more public image don't generally want to be worrying about nude shots surfacing. But models have a situation that is unique to other people in the public eye. Sure, if Freja wanted to run for President or marry a politician, she might run into credibility problems like Carla Bruni. Then again, Carmen Kass has been fairly successful in Estonia, so who knows?
But aside from that, former models (or current) are not bashed for nude shots like actresses and musicians are, because they are not perceived in the same way. People have very little connection to models as human beings, and I think that makes it difficult for them to see them in the same light as other artistic professionals who get papped and interviewed all the time. That, and the context is different. Models are expected to sell their bodies and beauty only, whereas other performers are meant to sell their specific talent and their personality.
From what I've seen, when a model transitions to a new field, things like nude shots for upscale fashion magazines are a non issue. I'm not sure why exactly; it seems to me that people will look at it in an artistic light when a picture is tied to the fashion industry, and if you're stripping off your knickers for art, that is seen as okay. So sure, the model has a body of work that is explicitly nude, but people tend to forgive her for that because of the avenue in which those photos were shot ("It's not like she did it for Penthouse" they'll say at the very least, which might be all the justification needed).
Also, keep in mind that Freja always wanted to be a rockstar, not First Lady. She listens to hard rock, soul, and blues music. Assuming that her push in the music industry (under the condition that she actually makes one, of course) is in a rock direction, having a bunch of nude pictures will do nothing but increase the public perception that she's a badass flying in the face of social norms, which is one of the main selling points for that genre.
Addressed to Anonymous poster who said:
"It comes down to dignity, how far you will push to sell a product and the first Santa lolla campaign pics made me lose my respect for her completely. I do believe the aim of that was not artistic and also because it was not editorial, or art material, but an advertisement, shows that sex sells and Freja is not ashamed to strip down totally (underwear included) to sell stuff."
My response:
I'm a Freja fan, but she is not an artist. She is a model, a glorified coat-hanger who is paid to sell the objects she wears. I love following fashion and models, but sometimes people get way too wrapped up in it and how 'artistic' it is. Fashion designers are creative, yes, but they're down the very bottom of the artistic ladder. Models don't even register as artists in my opinion.
Freja may be a lovely person who might pursue artistic habits in her personal life, but selling clothes in not an art form and neither is advertising them, whether it be blatantly in an ad or subversively in an editorial. Get over your obsession with dignity, because you're going to find much of it in fashion. Fashion is fun, beautiful and desirable, but certainly not meaningful or moral.
Rrose, I do love your blog. Like an earlier poster said, maybe you could just do one monthly round-up post if you're sick of regular updating. Your hard work is truly appreciated.
Rrose, please don't give up this blog, there are so many Freja admirers need your update news about Freja
Hi Rrose, its not worth giving up this blog, we
Love you, you are like FREJA number 1 fan that I look up to. :(
Xx
Can everybody just chill?
Rrose probably has other things to concentrate on, like work or life, and her world obviously doesn't revolve around Freja. It's her decision to quit and you all begging her to come back are annoying. Couple of comments about how her work on this blog was great, are fine, but now it's just getting desperate.
The blog was great while it lasted, but too many things have changed now and anyone who has been following Freja's career and the blog since their beginnings know just how many. I can totally see how Rrose might be tired of it all.
Rose can you please come back? Thank You
- Love from Russia
"Once or twice is OK because I agree, it was for the artistic value, but just too many times and that really lowered my view of her and my respect for her."
- 100% AGREE
I've wasted so much of my time coming on this blog. Never again.
I'm so sick for some people who always being so critical about freja's works (esp nudity things). it is her decision to do it and she is cool about it. AND I bet her agent don't give a damn about that. why can some people just enjoy and love the way she is. It is not like she is the only high fashion supermodel doing nudity in printworks.
I really do love this blog. as much as I love everything about FREJA. but it is understandable if you want to stop this blog. i know deep down in your heart, you still love freja. AND I'm gonna miss you.
INDONESIA
I've wasted so much of my time coming on this blog. Never again
^ X 10000
After being disillusioned, I realize it was quite a sad waste of time :(
Okay, I know what everybody means by the respect thing.
Personally, (this is not related to her work), I was admiring this long legged Danish beauty, so naturally, as an obsessed fan does, I trailed every freja fan blog I could, along with forums.
I know this ventures off the scope a little bit, but there are pictures of Freja with a marijuana joint in her hand and videos of her peeing in public where you can see the pee leaking onto the grass and her black skinny jeans down and her at a music festival spitting out heaps of beer for the camera.
Yes, I know this is not related to her work, but as a fan, I could digest this, because, it is her rock and roll image right? Couple that with a bit of tattoos and then BAM you got yourself a sizzling hot androgenous hottie.
But when constant nudity is released this reminds me of this fact more and more, and now it just looks plain cheap.
The pictures and video are available on a L anonymous forum http://s1.zetaboards.com/L_Anon/topic/3659430/ and it was on youtube, however, was removed. Some of the segments of the video may still be on there however.
Yes, I do realize it has nothing to do with the calibre of work she releases and yes yes, i know this, but coming from a fan, one of those in her audience, I was just so disappointed. Of course I wasnt expecting a saint, but I wasnt expecting to see a video of anybodys urine. Not to mention Freja Beha Erichsens urine and bare bottom. (not like the bottom is anything of shock value anymore either
Look, it's one thing to criticize Freja's modeling career but it's quite another thing when you start criticizing her personal life. None of us here are entitled to know a thing about her personal life.
If you want to pass judgement on someone you don't even know based on fragmented pieces of her life that get leaked out on the internet, you're allowed. But to post it publicly and describe things about her personal life and even try to point people in the direction of where they can see these things is crossing a line, imo.
We know how reserved Freja is about those matters, the facebook pictures that you saw were probably taken from her or her friends' facebooks without their permission, the video was removed so you can decipher from that they didn't want it to be spread around the internet either.
Rose has always made a point to only discuss Freja's career and next to nothing about her personal life, and rightly so. So may some of you here can show a bit more tact and do the same.
Yeah, that post above was so completely unnecessary. I hope it gets deleted soon.
She is a public figure, whining about not having privacy is ridiculous. If she wants to avoid these things then she shouldnt have entered an industry that puts her into the limelight.
Whats the difference between talking about Freja's personal life and having Lindsay's personal life splashed across tabloids worldwide?
You cant have your cake and eat it too
When Freja starts calling the paps to film her on a daily basis, cause major problems on her job, carjack someone to chase down another person or just generally break the law then I will agree with you. Not now, though. sorry.
Dear Rrose
i love your blog so much. i do enjoy Freja's career.
i totally do understand if you don't want to continue with this blog, i know it was giving you a lot of work. and you had to spend a lot of your time, too.
but, if you will not write on this blog anymore you should, maybe, write a farewell post. is just an advice, you don't have to take it.
anyway,
thanks for everything.
i hope someone else will continue with Freja's news.
love,
Andrea
I dont think there has to be some series of catastrophies in order for somebody to be considered a public figure.
If you are in the public eye, you cant complain about any attention or scrutiny period. You should also throw out any notion of privacy out the door. If youre putting yourself out there, your putting yourself out there and there are things that result from that.
If you think that people who :
paps to film on a daily basis, cause major problems on job, carjack someone to chase down another person or just generally break the law
are okay to have no privacy
then what makes it so wrong to you that somebody who is also a public figure gets their privacy impinged in the same way?
If it is wrong for you, then dont think about her personal life, but people who see it as the same thing, celebrity, then you shouldnt expect them to agree with your judgements just like you dont agree with theirs.
No need to say sorry to a person who wasnt looking for an apology in the first place.
It appears the heavy influx of lesbians frequenting this board has ceased
Wow, in my opinion, freja, you or me as a young people we try everything, she's a polite person and a great model, very versatil... so don't say (just because she kiss girls or appears nude, I don't see the problem with it...is so natural and by the way she doesn't have that much to show)- that she's not interesting anymore and if that's your opinion then you should stop talking about her... because we and the industry respect her work!!
And remember the campaing she did for Azul, she took photos being nude with a sexy male model!! (that is not "too lesbian")!!
I'd just like to say, im a lesbian and if you dont like it, you can go screw yourself with a cucumber!!!
You are all complaining about her nudity, but I say more more more!! I love seeing this naked pix of Freja because she is so hot.
I didnt like that azul ad because she was with a man, it would have been better if there was a woman on it (ie. me)
Freja is the best and all us lezzies think so, you cant beat us, we outnumber you!! And to the poster who has SUCh a problem with us needs a good fisting to know not to mess with us!
Lezzie 4 lyfe
- Carol
Rrose! I miss your musings! Even if the subject of Freja has been exhausted for you, I hope you keep writing in some capacity, whatever the subject be. (Especially if it's fashion, though, as the fashion world sorely lacks for intelligent, thoughtful writers.) I hope you're well! & thank you for this lovely blog!
please don't stop the blog rrose!
we all love both you and freja and i have to admit that this is the best blog i've ever seen really. we support you, and hope you are well bless you:)
Ohh awesome.
My blog♥mfashionfreak
Dear blogger! Thank you for your article, which you gave us through your blog we have learned about Freja. While you stop this blog, I do not mind, I know that everyone has a family, their problems ... I wish you well. We love you.
dear blogger, we miss you and hope so deadly you will continue blogging, wish you are well, love you! x.
@Anonymous above me - I think you mean dearly and not "deadly". Rose where are you?! I hope you're having a great summer vacation and not laboring over some research paper.
I miss you dearly.(^_^)
I like your blog i hope you visit www.theblondestyle.com
The lesbian comunity is waiting in anticipation for you
- Love,
The L Chat
Yes,
Our lesbian loins are aching for your return.
afterellen.com loves you too Rose!!!
xx
hope all is well with you and hope your reason for absense is not that of sadness .
fashionspot just doesnt say it like you do .
pete , UK
I miss your blog Rrose...
Please.. Come back..
FR
Rose, thank you so much for all the great work you did in maintaining such an interesting portfolio of Freja's work over the years. This blog came at a great time for me when I was just getting into fashion and especially Freja and it will be sadly missed. HT (UK)
You have a really awesome blog! - Followed.
Keep it up :)
Check out my blog you might like it!
http://zackgaming.blogspot.com/
- Zack
I miss your blog...
Sorry to interrupt the discussion...but I just want to ask...Am I the last one who know that Freja is dating with Arizona?Or it just a rumor?
If you(Rose) don't like me talking about this...then please delete this comment.
@Gabrielle:
It's been rumored for sometime now, but has been recently confirmed. Yay for Frizona! (^_^)
@ Gabrielle
Yes, those two are lesbian and Arizona had a kid by the sperm of a gay guy.
Now Freja visits Arizona's hometown regularly and helps to look after the kid as the father is gay and is not married to Arizona anymore.
Now Arizona thinks she is also a lesbian.
hey, i just started reading your blog.. don't stop blogging please.. i'm Freja's fan and your blog fan from Indonesia.
I guess all we have now is Freja's twitter because Rose is a quitter.
^ Freja doesn't have a twitter.
Miss your blog!!!
^ Are you sure that's not her twitter? I've been following it and it seems pretty legit.
^Definitely not legit.They have made mistakes as to where Freja is in the past and then delete them, and people who know/have worked with Freja have said she doesn't have a twitter. It's actually a Turkish fan who runs it, used to write in Turkish on the twitter account before it got more popular. They also created a fake freja facebook account and fake accounts for Freja's real life friends. They steal pictures from their personal accounts and then tweet them or post them to these accounts. Very creepy. But 100% NOT Freja.
Wow, I guess it's true. I looked it up and it's true. Freja and Arizona are together. A bit of a surprise though, never thought Freja would go that direction considering she's pretty big in the industry. Oh well, whatever the purpose the of this combination I do not get it!
^ Thanks for confirming that; although I'm kind of bummed now that I know its a fake. I guess with social media sometimes you can never be certain. In other news not Freja related, Karl was photographed in Saint Tropez without his glasses on!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/02/karl-lagerfeld-without-sunglasses_n_916529.html
Please dont stop blogging!!:(
Dear Blogger,
Come back!!!
Dear Rose, I have been a big fan of your blog for a little more than a year now and have always appreciated your interesting take on fashion. I do not know the reason why you have decided to stop blogging, but I just want you to know that your fans, me included, miss you very much. And I hope whatever path you have decided to take in life is of great blessing, but does not stop you from at least saying goodbye to us. Fashion Week is around the corner and I hope you can come back and delight us with your witty comments. Love!!!
i love this film!
Karl chose better actors (models) for this film than others he has created. Feja was fit for her part so perfectly I couldn't picture anyone else playing it! Her ethereal beauty and complacent demeanor made the short all more enticing and mysterious - and who doesn't love a little suspense?
Feliz Cumpleaños FREJAAAAA...:-)
Happy Birthday Freja! And Happy 3 Year Anniversary to Rose's blog! Your followers are going to be very disappointed if you don't have any thing to say today, Rose. Hope all is well. (^_^)
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