tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926616510432788953.post1708508728200275608..comments2023-12-31T15:58:32.843-05:00Comments on Freja Beha: Think Punk, Think AgainRrose Sélavyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08458809465088586006noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926616510432788953.post-42129226819439258562011-09-20T09:47:23.787-04:002011-09-20T09:47:23.787-04:00Hi! Great blog! I really this editorial. cheers!
N...Hi! Great blog! I really this editorial. cheers!<br />Noe!<br /><br />http://theuniversalfashion.blogspot.com/Noe Colonnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05684444257341716877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926616510432788953.post-30075880424270169592010-10-03T17:55:05.947-04:002010-10-03T17:55:05.947-04:00Rrose! I totally agree with you:) Wonderful blog:)...Rrose! I totally agree with you:) Wonderful blog:) XxxSabinanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926616510432788953.post-23970310384544992792010-10-02T02:14:01.593-04:002010-10-02T02:14:01.593-04:00I get that Freja has tattoos, is tough and cool, b...I get that Freja has tattoos, is tough and cool, buts sadly she doesn't fit in this editorial. She looks way to harsh and a bit out of place.This is not true for all the frames I do like the 3rd from last.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926616510432788953.post-27210384397353224642010-10-01T09:08:36.611-04:002010-10-01T09:08:36.611-04:00^Yes, I would. And I don't complain about othe...^Yes, I would. And I don't complain about other models because I only discuss Freja on this blog, as the title would suggest. There are many other models whom I've gotten tired of because they keep churning out the same type of work in the same vein. Instead of criticizing them, I just stop following their work. I issue criticism when I think it's warranted, and if you've been reading this blog since the beginning when I started, that would be evident. :)Rrose Sélavyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08458809465088586006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926616510432788953.post-89691176692358131092010-10-01T08:57:35.852-04:002010-10-01T08:57:35.852-04:00I think the problem that people have with your cri...I think the problem that people have with your criticism is that you don't see people complaining about female models always being portrayed as feminine do you? It's only a problem when they are androgynous (b/c women are supposed to be dainty flowers right?). What I mean is that if Freja weren't known for being andro. and was styled like most other models in edits would you be complaining about how "limited" her work is?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926616510432788953.post-63886396040965621242010-10-01T00:48:53.206-04:002010-10-01T00:48:53.206-04:00I'm similar in that I've ALWAYS preferred ...I'm similar in that I've ALWAYS preferred Freja's feminine side over her androgynous side. And my first reaction to this was just really ... shmeh. However, I appreciate this ed as its definitely not the typical androgynous styling, its referencing ad particular time, group and feeling. It definitely tests your ideas on beauty and although i dont find this particular ed beautiful, it is interesting. And it shows her versatility. And on a fangirly note, I LOVE that she was in 2 eds for VP's 90th anniversary issue, Bal Masque being far superior to this IMO. I hope Carine continues to support her!<br /><br />And lastly, LOVE you blog so much Rrose and appreciate all the work that you've put into it :) I always come back to read your views and opinions :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926616510432788953.post-41933957066942738302010-09-30T22:31:45.559-04:002010-09-30T22:31:45.559-04:00^ahhhh, why are you apologizing for your English? ...^ahhhh, why are you apologizing for your English? It's great! And so is your lovely, thoughtful comment. You're totally right, beauty is subjective and fashion doesn't always have to be about beauty. The editorial provokes thought and seems to either draw out feelings of love or hate, depending on the viewer.Rrose Sélavyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08458809465088586006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926616510432788953.post-19653940840409944192010-09-30T21:17:22.261-04:002010-09-30T21:17:22.261-04:00i don't think this editorial is about beauty o...i don't think this editorial is about beauty or ugliness. the strength of the expressions and the environment invites (or challenges) the observer to this dark, underground and almost mystic world, witch is fantasised, but still, very real and fairly unknow. it is about power, obscurity and the realization of something that is out of our usual sights. nowadays, i don't think fashion is always about beauty. anyway, beauty is a subjective concept and, for me, this is a beautiful editorial and she looks beautiful, but this is not up to discussion, since it's a personal opinion. what matters here is the power of the image, and if the observer is touched or not by its concept and final result. i'm sorry for my poor english.luisa m.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926616510432788953.post-56505647105775318422010-09-30T19:42:08.187-04:002010-09-30T19:42:08.187-04:00Thanks Gill. :)
@ Billie: Not trying to be rude, ...Thanks Gill. :)<br /><br />@ Billie: Not trying to be rude, just sticking up for myself after feeling attacked on my own blog. I have the comments section because I love reading what others have to say (like all the other great comments with great points of view in this very post). I don't believe in censorship, but it just sucks when I'm not accorded the same respect that I try to show everyone. Thanks for your comments though.<br /><br />@ kasia: Thank you. Next time if you're frustrated with what I've written, a comment explaining why would go much further to your advantage than any negativity. :)Rrose Sélavyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08458809465088586006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926616510432788953.post-58937762917488028132010-09-30T18:28:54.932-04:002010-09-30T18:28:54.932-04:00i apologize if i hurt your feelings Rrose.
i'm...i apologize if i hurt your feelings Rrose.<br />i'm sorry if you felt attacked, even though it was just a comment.<br />i guess i could've been politer on my thoughts.<br />having said that, i can see that many agreed with the general sentiment. i mean, it is your blog, but this is the comment section and we can give our opinions, right?<br />i guess i said what i said because i love Freja and i thought that you were a little unfair with her -and her work- without a legit reason. i was a little frustrated by your words towards the editorial at the momment and i wrote what it first came to my mind.<br />anyway, just clearing the air.<br />i'm always gonna be very greatful for all the work you do here. -and i can be a bitch, i know-kasianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926616510432788953.post-74114926327705999072010-09-30T18:02:20.452-04:002010-09-30T18:02:20.452-04:00dear Rrose, if you don't want any 'negativ...dear Rrose, if you don't want any 'negative' comments then don't have a comment section. simple as that. and btw i do think that the kasia comment wasn't as polite as you would've liked it, but i guess that we all agree with her a bit.<br />'If you don't like it, you don't have to read it.' we get it, again, this is YOUR blog after all. but who is being quite rude here, is you.<br />i love your blog, mainly because is dedicated to Freja. <br />not trying to be 'negative' or anything.<br />keep up with the good work!Billienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926616510432788953.post-88746126386929821232010-09-30T17:58:36.148-04:002010-09-30T17:58:36.148-04:00Seriously people, if you don't like what's...Seriously people, if you don't like what's being posted, go somewhere else. Or if you have enough opinions of your own, start your own blog. Taking the piss out of this one is just immature and unappreciative of the amount of effort Rrose puts into keeping everyone informed. She doesn't deserve negativity for making our lives easier.Gill Fordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04575559087449526795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926616510432788953.post-42326436106944069382010-09-30T15:49:07.010-04:002010-09-30T15:49:07.010-04:00Correction. It should read "feminine over the...Correction. It should read "feminine over the masculine". I've been watching too much Goddard.Mona Lisa Overdrivenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926616510432788953.post-15873142177741530292010-09-30T15:48:53.941-04:002010-09-30T15:48:53.941-04:00^If you don't like it, you don't have to r...^If you don't like it, you don't have to read it. That's the beauty of this blog. <i>You</i> have to make the decision to visit it and read what I write. <i>I</i> am not forcing you to read anything. :) As soon as I pander to what some of you <i>want</i> me to say and write, then this blog has lost it's purpose. It's a purpose I've made very clear since the beginning...don't know why I'm being attacked because of it all of a sudden.Rrose Sélavyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08458809465088586006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926616510432788953.post-87075987107743236092010-09-30T15:23:55.669-04:002010-09-30T15:23:55.669-04:00Get over it Rrose. Your acicular criticism of any ...Get over it Rrose. Your acicular criticism of any given editorial's focus on Freja's "androgyny" is getting repetitive and almost to point of self parody. We get it. You prefer the masculine over the feminine. Maybe you should step back a little and re-evaluate what it is that inspired you to write this blog in the first place. I often find that as soon as I think I'm over something, it starts looking fresh again. You've put yourself in a box and the only way you're going to feel inspired is to lift the lid open. Anyone who is vaguely familiar with punk music knows that Freja is channeling Bill Idol here. It's cool, edgy, and very rock & roll.Mona Lisa Overdrivenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926616510432788953.post-79516936270690468172010-09-30T15:04:24.522-04:002010-09-30T15:04:24.522-04:00It's a strange vision of Freja, but anyway for...It's a strange vision of Freja, but anyway for me this shows her versatility and capacity to change her role wiht success.Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12014162248448228322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926616510432788953.post-85001805659832735682010-09-30T13:52:31.965-04:002010-09-30T13:52:31.965-04:00If the last comment was directed at me(I'm the...If the last comment was directed at me(I'm the anon who made the "objective" comment) then I apologize. It was just a suggestion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926616510432788953.post-25257426833087902832010-09-30T07:29:38.189-04:002010-09-30T07:29:38.189-04:00Look, I understand some of you don't like read...Look, I understand some of you don't like reading the same thing over and over, and that some of you like Freja being all androgynous all the time. But if you read the side bar at the top of this blog, I never purport to be "objective." I tell you that here you will find my "thoughts and musings" which are completely subjective. That's why I love reading all these comments because I get other subjective points of view. But when someone is rude and doesn't provide any constructive criticism (like kasia) I will not tolerate that. Like I said, I'm not forcing any of you to read this blog, and if you have a different point of view thats what the comment section is for. :)Rrose Sélavyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08458809465088586006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926616510432788953.post-82190448778410287782010-09-30T02:57:49.458-04:002010-09-30T02:57:49.458-04:00Right now I ought to be desperately finishing my t...Right now I ought to be desperately finishing my truckload of homework, but not before I can help but get a word in or two... well, a response, more like.<br /><br />"But I guess all models have a shtick they can't get away from....Lara and her boobs immediately come to my mind."<br /><br />You never fail to humor me :)<br /><br />Now off I go. I'll be back later in the day when I'm less busy to give my actual thoughts on this editorial. (Actually, at the moment, I can't quite decide what would be best for me to say about it yet.)Mirandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12089527347874468425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926616510432788953.post-61167846984993264382010-09-30T01:32:56.978-04:002010-09-30T01:32:56.978-04:00I have to agree with Prose, I like Freja being fem...I have to agree with Prose, I like Freja being feminine. This is Prose's blog after all, she has every right to state her opinion just like some of you want express in the comments section here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926616510432788953.post-13600775620321590012010-09-29T23:35:44.336-04:002010-09-29T23:35:44.336-04:00I think Kasia may have been too blunt but I do agr...I think Kasia may have been too blunt but I do agree with the general sentiment. You could afford to be a bit more objective sometimes. Ask yourself are you upset that Freja is being portrayed in a certain way out of concern for her career or out of a preference for a certain aesthetic? But as you stated this is your blog and I think you do a great job of covering Freja's work. Not trying to be negative.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926616510432788953.post-38868935842393460832010-09-29T23:21:54.561-04:002010-09-29T23:21:54.561-04:00Ugh this editorial is awful! I am so sick of "...Ugh this editorial is awful! I am so sick of "punk 77" being revisited over and over again. It's boring and has been done so many times. It's just lazy at this point.Annikanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926616510432788953.post-73511625192573265772010-09-29T21:10:12.508-04:002010-09-29T21:10:12.508-04:00i'm sure she has fun. :) anyway, they don'...i'm sure she has fun. :) anyway, they don't need a supermodel for that job if they are going to alter her look beyond recognition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926616510432788953.post-79813425393311815162010-09-29T21:03:46.221-04:002010-09-29T21:03:46.221-04:00I actually really like this editorial. It definit...I actually really like this editorial. It definitely is something different and unusual especially for mainstream fashion magazines like Vogue Paris. It probably would not have been as odd if this is for i-D or Pop. But I think Freja has more personality in this ed than in any other recent ones we have seen lately. These pictures don't seem overly pose-y, have a strong mood going on, and they put things into perspective. Is fashion always about glamour? Do models always have to look polished?<br />And I totally agree with Peter. I think that Freja is a model and she is doing her job. Styling really is just a subject of taste.kimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926616510432788953.post-87382707956988830212010-09-29T20:33:30.962-04:002010-09-29T20:33:30.962-04:00As always, I LOVE reading all your thoughts. You g...As always, I LOVE reading all your thoughts. You guys make me think and reevaluate and that's what I love to do. I am definitely going to look at this editorial again, much deeper, with new eyes. Also, you all out there should never apologize for going on too long or talking too much. Your opinions are just as valid as mine and I love being privy to them!<br /><br />@ kasia: Yes, it <i>is</i> my blog and I'm not <i>forcing</i> you to read it. I created this space so I could let out my thoughts without being in the way of anyone else. It you don't care for what I have to say, you can just not read it. Simple as that. :) So you can take your negativity and leave thanks.Rrose Sélavyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08458809465088586006noreply@blogger.com